Surgery: 06/12/05
The quick summary
This first surgery wasn’t very successful. I was in and out the same day and came away with a very neat scar stitched with permanent stitches about 8cm long straight down the mid-line of my buttock cleft. Everything went downhill rapidly after about two weeks. I got a post surgical infection, the skin healed fine but the wound partially broke down underneath. I had the stitches out successfully, but the wound never healed up and after about 5 months I was back for op no.2. The whole experience with the NHS also wasn’t too good for me. I don’t want to knock the NHS and the doctors and nurses who I saw were very nice to me, but unfortunately the severe lack of staff and funding is still a huge problem and everything happened far too slowly, which was very frustrating.
The detailed account
My first Pilonidal surgery was done as an outpatient at the Royal Surrey County Hospital. I had private medical cover but at the time I believed that my insurance wouldn’t cover the surgery, for reasons I won’t go into. I’m not going to talk about the day of the surgery and the experience because it’s pretty much the same as everyone’s experience of surgery, except to say that it was done under general anaesthetic, I was about 7 hours late going down for surgery because the Surgeon wasn’t available (good old NHS) and I went home after a few hours of recovery.
I was surprised by how painful it wasn’t. Compared to the constant dull pain of the sinus before. I was optimistic, I could feel that it had gone. I didn’t dare sit for a few days, in fact the only time I sat was to go to the toilet which was quite painful, not to mention rather tricky with a huge bandage taped over a large part of my buttocks, and I dreaded it every day. I was given Lactulose to “soften the stool” which initially I didn’t take – big mistake. Laxatives are good for post surgery. My first appointment with the nurse at my surgery was about 5 days post op, it should have been sooner with the district nurse and I’m going to say this once but not dwell on the point. At this time I did not had a good experience at all with the whole district nurse thing. My advice is be pro-active and be pushy. If you’re going to have surgery on the NHS as an outpatient, book your first appointment with the nurse for a day or two after the op BEFORE you go in for surgery. Local authorities and GP practices differ and you’ll know what it’s like in your area but generally they’re booked up a good few days in advance at least. If you can’t get an appointment, be pushy tell them you really need the wound looked at. Closed wounds are particularly vulnerable to infection, is the consensus, I concur. In the NHS system when you’re discharged from hospital after an operation that’s it, they don’t want to have anything more to do with you. You’re in the care of your GP from then on, but GP’s surgeries are generally very busy and you can end up being left in limbo land, where because they haven’t seen you yet, nobody really cares about you. The hospital tells you your district nurse will come out to you, but they don’t know that at all, it seems to me that the two organisation’s don’t communicate. Again this may vary from PCT to PCT but in Surrey this was my experience.
So week 1 and 2, went well, the nurses said the incision was very neat, about 8cm long I’d say. Pretty much straight down the mid-line of my buttock cleft. I didn’t get it wet and the dressing was changed every few days. The incision had a small section at the base which wasn’t stitched closed, this was to enable the wound to drain if necessary I was told. 2 Weeks and one day and the nurse changing the dressing was alarmed by the fact that there was a large amount of fluid coming from the wound. She asked me whether it hurt, I didn’t think that it hurt any more than I expected. After all I’d just had an operation. However after subsequent surgeries, I now know that it did, it hurt a lot compared to my subsequent surgeries but I didn’t realise what it should feel like at the time. The doctor was summoned and I was told I had an infection in the wound given antibiotics and told the wound may break down completely. It didn’t, but that was pretty much game over from then on.
I had the stitches out after just over two weeks, it bled a lot at the time. The wound continued to heal after a fashion but that hole at the base of the wound never closed and would break down inside tracking upward, heal a bit, then break down again. I started to get pain at the original site of my abscess, I told this to everyone at my surgery who saw the wound, they were sympathetic but not too worried and were convinced it would heal eventually, so I went through about 4 months of wound packing with Aquacel (which is amazing stuff) and many courses of antibiotics. This was a pretty low period, but I didn’t really know what else to do, I trusted the staff at my GP practice that it would eventually heal, even though it still hurt. I knew that keeping the area free of hair was important, though this wasn’t something I was told after the operation at the hospital, and the nurses at my surgery were happy to shave it for me or use depilatory cream, but the consultant didn’t seem that bothered about it when he removed the stitches. He agreed that it would be a good idea but didn’t stress the point. After about 4 months of this I and the nurses decided I should try to get another appointment with the consultant at the Royal Surrey, though the nurses said it was unlikely that the consultant would suggest anything different that could be done (they were right). Getting the appointment involved being re-referred by my GP, because of the ridiculous NHS bureaucracy, it took a long time but eventually I got an appointment for the 24th April. All this time I was off work or working from home. The day of my appointment at the hospital came, the consultant looked at it, didn’t even remove the packing, and assured me that it would heal eventually, the whole consultation took about 2 minutes. I was pretty peeved.
I then decided to explore the possibility of getting an appointment to see the same consultant privately, and worked out that in fact I would be covered by my health insurance. So I booked a private appointment, which was a wholly different experience, and to cut a rather boring long story short I was scheduled in for a re-excision of the area, about a week later.
October 17, 2009 at 2:51 pm |
Sat, many apologies this is such a late reply.
I think you can start shaving as soon as the scar isn’t bleeding or oozing at all and the skin has healed enough that you’re not going to start it bleeding again by shaving. post 4 weeks should be enough. However I’d be wary of depilatory cream for a bit longer. Shaving is most important soon after the op when the skin is healing and is softer and thinner where the scar is.
September 30, 2009 at 10:47 am |
Hi guys,
just doing a google searh for pns and came across this blog.
I myself have had wide excision and primary closure just over 4 weeks ago. Walking is ok now and, as someone mentioned above, sitting feels a bit weird and awkward rather than painful.
I had a few stitches break down after the first week which were then steristripped together and i was put onto antibiotics for 5 days. it doesn’t feel too bad at the moment although i’m still just keeping my fingers crossed and hoping for the best.
Anyone know how soon after shaving the area is advisable? I was advised to do it roughly once a month but am wondering when other people started post op.
Cheers,
Sat
August 12, 2009 at 11:37 pm |
Jason, thanks so much! I’ve sent you an email.
August 12, 2009 at 11:24 am |
Wow….
This site is exactly what I have been looking for mate… You are a champion! After trolling through all the bull$hit doctor/journal jargon, it is nice to read about PNS in an easy, understandable manner….
My story is nothing flash…. I first noticed the pain about 4 years ago I reckon… It was a dull ache in my tail-bone that I would just put down to sitting too long at the computer… A couple of days and it would go away… Every 5-6 months it would come and go without too much fuss really…
Gradually the pain got worse when it flared up and the gap between episodes was getting shorter
I used to joke with my fiance that I was growing a tail…. Then over the last 6-12 months it has been every 6-8 weeks and the pain is bloody ridiculous! I am not able to sit down like I normally would (I sort of lean to one side – One cheek)
Back in March I bit the bullet and went to the doctor about it… It was flared up at the time and pretty painful… She took one look at it and said “I am pretty sure you have a Pilonidal Cyst” I replied “WTF is that?” She gave me a brief description “Blokes, Hairs, Teens to early 30’s blah blah blah”… She referred me to a Plumbers Crack Specialist
My appointment was in April…. But I realised after I made it that I was going away that week so I just didn’t rock up! They called me and I told them I had forgotten about it and so I rescheduled for last Friday.
So inevitably to cut a long, drawn out story short, I am booked in for a wide excision of a pilonidal sinus on the 31st of August….
Rhomboid Flap is what he told me…. So silly, internet savvy Jason looks up some pictures! Holy Crap! That was a bad idea! Gotta throw that pair of underwear out now!
But after a bit of thought and a few cold beers I have come to the conclusion that I need to get rid of this little red angry monster! While it has not “leaked” for want of a better term, I have 3 small dots (holes) above my plumbers crack that are about to be removed… Along with whatever goodies they find under the area!
Do you think it is a strange request to ask them to take photos during surgery??? And would a nurse do it if I gave her my little digital camera??
I am trying to be upbeat about this affliction, but it is pretty hard…. I am fair dinkum shitting myself about the whole surgery thing!
Anyway, wish me luck…. My story is nothing on yours….
Thanks for setting up this site too…. It is a pearler!
Jason
From Down Under
August 11, 2009 at 11:11 pm |
Claire, so sorry to not get back to you quicker, I would say it’s early days for you, I definitely couldn’t sit for a while, maybe 4 weeks, and even then it was pretty uncomfortable, but as you say a lot of that was probably due to a residual infection. Even though you’ve had your stitches out, you’ll have dissolving stitches inside the wound so it’s a good idea to try to stay off it for as long as practical. Although I know what it’s like! Not feeling able to sit down is so depressing, and sometimes unavoidable.
The fact that you’re describing pain similar to how it was before the op is a bit of a concern. My advice is that you’ll know whether it feels right or not. Give it another week or so and if you’re still feeling uncomfortable I’d say it’s time to go and see your consultant again. Sitting should not really feel painful after 3-4 weeks, it should feel fairly normal unless you’re putting weight on it i.e. in a car seat or on a sofa, in which case it’ll feel a bit tender and strange.
It’s very difficult to tell what’s going on when you’ve had primary closure, it may be that everything is fine although in my experience, things can look fine on the outside of the wound but that doesn’t automatically mean all is well.
August 7, 2009 at 2:17 pm |
I hope you are doing well and no further problems!
I went private straight away and had a excision with primary closure just over two weeks ago. I have been back to have 2 sets of stitches removed and went back again to see the nurses yesterday as I am still experiencing alot of tenderness in the area (similar to before the op) and still cannot sit down! They have re-assured me that everything looks fine but as neither of them had any previous experience in Pilonidal Sinus this concerns me a little as they could not answer my questions!
How sound was it on your primary closures could you sit down or did you not manage to at all due to the infections?
Regards,
Claire